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	<title>Comments on: A Few Lessons Learned</title>
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	<description>Rambling and occasional wisdom from Nate Kohari</description>
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		<title>By: Daily Links for Wednesday, August 19th, 2009</title>
		<link>http://kohari.org/2009/08/17/a-few-lessons-learned/comment-page-1/#comment-1316</link>
		<dc:creator>Daily Links for Wednesday, August 19th, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A Few Lessons Learned — Discord&amp;Rhyme [...]</description>
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		<title>By: DP</title>
		<link>http://kohari.org/2009/08/17/a-few-lessons-learned/comment-page-1/#comment-1253</link>
		<dc:creator>DP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 23:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed on meta-work.  Sometimes it is worthwhile to spend some time on things that are necessary, but not really part of the user experience.

I&#039;m curious though what you mean when you say that your billing system is one of the most complex in the system.  I&#039;d have thought it would be fairly straightforward service that looks at your customer records, and once per month triggers the billing process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed on meta-work.  Sometimes it is worthwhile to spend some time on things that are necessary, but not really part of the user experience.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious though what you mean when you say that your billing system is one of the most complex in the system.  I&#8217;d have thought it would be fairly straightforward service that looks at your customer records, and once per month triggers the billing process.</p>
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		<title>By: RobertTheGrey</title>
		<link>http://kohari.org/2009/08/17/a-few-lessons-learned/comment-page-1/#comment-1202</link>
		<dc:creator>RobertTheGrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 12:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Nate!

I&#039;ve had the same issues on my current project regarding meta-work and administration. I couldn&#039;t agree with you more, and whilst I thought I could get away with building all the client facing bits first to impress potential beta testers, I&#039;ve been bitten more than once by not having proper diagnotics and admin stuff setup in time to catch the problems those beta testers inadvertently ran into... the terms &#039;egg&#039; and &#039;face&#039; come to mind ;-)

Great work on Agile Zen - keep it up!
Cheers,
Rob G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Nate!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had the same issues on my current project regarding meta-work and administration. I couldn&#8217;t agree with you more, and whilst I thought I could get away with building all the client facing bits first to impress potential beta testers, I&#8217;ve been bitten more than once by not having proper diagnotics and admin stuff setup in time to catch the problems those beta testers inadvertently ran into&#8230; the terms &#8216;egg&#8217; and &#8216;face&#8217; come to mind ;-)</p>
<p>Great work on Agile Zen &#8211; keep it up!<br />
Cheers,<br />
Rob G</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Muc</title>
		<link>http://kohari.org/2009/08/17/a-few-lessons-learned/comment-page-1/#comment-1154</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Muc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here here on the soft-delete! I&#039;ve done a couple projects now where I wish I soft deleted everything. Sometimes having ON DELETE CASCADE on every foreign key relation is quite scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here here on the soft-delete! I&#8217;ve done a couple projects now where I wish I soft deleted everything. Sometimes having ON DELETE CASCADE on every foreign key relation is quite scary.</p>
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